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From the Prop 8 voter guide: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/argu-rebut/argu-rebutt8.htm

“Proposition 8 is about preserving marriage; it’s not an attack on the gay lifestyle. Proposition 8 doesn’t take away any rights or benefits of gay or lesbian domestic partnerships. Under California law, “domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections, and benefits” as married spouses. (Family Code § 297.5.) There are NO exceptions. Proposition 8 WILL NOT change this.”

In my opinion, gays dont have the argument that their rights are in violation, they just want to change the idea of marriage from a cultural perspective, which would be impossible to do.
‘Spiritually speaking’ of course.
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The argument proposed by those against Proposition 8 is that it would infringe their rights to the same enjoyment of marriage as heterosexual couples. In California “all registered domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules, government policies,common law, or any other provisions or sources of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses”. California Domestic Partner Act, California Family
Code, Sections 297 and 297.5(a).7

Since there is a law on the books that already guarantees homosexual couples the same rights as heterosexual ones it would appear that the issue at hand has little or nothing to do with the infringement or denial of marriage rights.

In addition, “all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, marital status, or sexual orientation are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind whatsoever. Cal. Civ. Code 51.5(a). This law prevents discrimination based on sexual orientation among other things and again bolsters the argument that the quest to redefine marriage has less to do with protecting rights and more to do with changing the definition of marriage.

If the issue at hand is not so much about the provision of equal rights for all then what is it about?
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I’m voting YES on 8 but may change my mind if someone can answer mr this. Can some one please tell me of the significant differences in rights given to California domestic partners versus those who are married. I’m an not interested in hearing “seperate-but-equal” crap or the abiliity to use the word “marriage” to define your partnership. What are the factual legal differences between the two, in means of the rights that are given and/or denied. I’ve been told that in this regard, domestic partnership and marriage are one and the same (in CA anyway)
Like property rights, adoption/parenting, hopspital vistations, state joint tax filings, joint finances, tiltles and wills/inheritance, custody of children, etc. Also, am interested in the “gay marraige will be taught in public schools” stuff. (already happening in Mass)
I see your argument at answer #3 but how will legalizing same-sex marriage stop discrimination in the workplace and such?
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Ok my boyfriend and I are registered in CA as DP. Only for insurance purposes. Have been for a year. Anyway we’re trying to get approved fro a home loan through the VA. Can my bf apply soley for the loan or do I have to be on the app as well? I read that it has nothing to do with the Federal Gov.and we’re not married yet so can he apply for the loan without me? He put me on the loan app (I didn’t know at the time) and now the VA office here is all confused about it. The DP thing. My realtor friend said that domestic partnership has nothing to do with him getting a loan. He had great income and good credit. I just quit my job and my credit is not so great right now. So honestly I don’t see the point of me being on there at all. But the real thing I want to find out is is there a law stating that I am required to be on the loan? Please help :)
I’m trying to find a reference just in case these people need to be shown something. (since I had to explain DP in the first place) thanks!!!
Any federal employees or lenders can you please help??? thanks. I greatly appreciate it!
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did he include heterosexual domestic partners who are not married as well? I don’t think heterosexuals should be able to have benefits if they are not married, because they have the right to get married, and gays do not in most states.
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My boyfriend and i are getting married next year. But for the past few months our frequent arguments have developed into physical violence towards each other and our property. Its not just him its me too. In fact I was the first one to start it. We are very much in love but we do not know how to handle our arguments without extreme anger and sometimes violence. We both have diagnosed mood and depressive disorders and we desperately want to spend the rest of our lives together. The only information i can find online on domestic violence is were the abuse only comes from one person not from both partners like my situation. Right now we are living apart but if we do start going to ‘couples counseling’ does it really work?
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Gays/Lesbians Still Unable to Sponsor Foreign Partners for Visas While the British Parliament celebrated its first Same Sex marriage, hailing recognition and acceptance of same gender partnerships, the leadership of US Congress says sorr, Queers, we cannot pursue a Bill that will provide US same-gender spouses the right to live with spouses and partners in the pursuit of happiness on US soil! Read more on Gayapolis

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The Sacramento Bee reported this week that a bill has been introduced in California that would help unwed couples; the plan will expand the rights of all heterosexual domestic partners; they would have the same legal rights as married couples, including filing joint state income tax returns, under legislation approved Monday by the state Senate.

Sen. Carole Migden introduced the bill; she cited published reports that show four out of 10 babies in the United States are now born to parents who are not married, but may live together. “It seems to me entirely fair that this Legislature respond to the emerging new definition of marriage and family,” said Migden, one of California’s first openly lesbian lawmakers, who calls the legislation an “equity measure.”

Conservative Republican lobbyists said the institution of marriage will be weakened. What do feminists think? Has marriage outlived its purpose? Is it time for a new type of committed relationship?
Here’s the Sacramento Bee article about California Senate Bill 11, which proposes to expand the rights of all heterosexual domestic partners: http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/205897.html
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This appears to afford them the legal coverage of marriage (medical decisions, property rights, so forth) without the religious connotation.

What are your thoughts on this?
Amy (below) {hi}, I wish that you cared as much for my religious life style as you do for others. Does my lifestyle deserve the same level of respect as others?
piego (below) What in the world is “womens’ reproductive freedom”? Where do these terms come from?
Old Scout (below) Good point

Suzanne (below) Agree with 1st part. Also, although you do not see how something effects me does not mean I’m not affected.
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